Thursday, April 02, 2009

5.11: Whatever Happened, Happened

So, yeah, y'all were right that little Ben's still alive. Arg.

I like that we're finding out what led to the Foundies being on that Guam-bound plane. In all my guesses about what happened to Kate, though, I never thought about her willingly giving up Aaron. I liked the return of Cassie's character, her ability to read right through and become friends w/ Kate. That scene with her saying goodbye to Aaron was definitely a tearjerker.

Back on the Island, I never would have expected Jack to outright refuse to save little Ben's life. That seems sort of contrary to his character, though I can understand his reasons. Taking Ben to the Others seemed like an odd out-of-the-blue solution to me. What do you think Richard's going to do to him to make him "lose his innocence" and "become one of them"?

I don't really have much more to say about this episode...it was interesting but didn't pack the punch the last few have. The preview for next week looked quite intriguing though...

4 comments:

SKlaft said...

Yes, I liked seeing Cassidy too. I also thought it was cool that Clementine answered the door with an excited and enthusiastic, "Hi Auntie Kate!" Evidently Cassidy and Kate (sounds like a bad, women's police duo / sitcom) have spent some long and frequent hours together.

I didn't think it was uncharacteristic of Jack to not try to save the boy. He was willing to literally murder the adult version on the surgery table in order to get Kate free. Especially on the heels of the conversation about how things that happened cannot be undone.

I think Jack is finally buying into the metaphysical properties of the Island, and if the boy was going to be saved and grow up to be the bad man who did so many things to the Losties, Jack just didn't want a part of it. If it were life and death back in the real world, where people don't know how children will be in adulthood, Jack would probably be Johnny-on-the-spot to protect the innocent boy. But that wasn't the situation.

One thing I didn't like was the announcement that Ben would not remember what happened to him. I thought that would be a very interesting dynamic in how Ben reacted to his saviors and his attempted murderer. Although, later, Ben does remember and know that he was not born on the Island. Maybe he does remember everything, but holds those cards to the vest?

I loved the conversation between Miles and Hurley. It's like they were watching the show with us, and discussing the intricacies of time travel as one of us, but it was far more important to them as they were living it. That was a very creative tool to amuse us while educating new watchers (or, those too dense to understand the principles).

SRG, you are right, the way Kate relinquished Aaron was unexpected, and the parting scene was difficult to watch. I think we all supposed Ben had Aaron stolen and was using him as leverage to force Kate to go back to the Island.

I like this more overt, and developed sense of heroism she has. She seems to always have had it, but it caused her a lot of heart-ache in the past, so she repressed it. With the past having been resolved with time and no longer a problem, she seems much more determined to do the right thing, come what may.

As far as James/ Sawyer-LaFleur having "grown" in the three years spent with Juliette... yeah, yeah... okay, but I bet he still won't want to leave the island and go back to present-time.

I don't care what Cassidy and her unreasonable bitterness has to say either; I don't think he is or was the coward she claims. At the time he left, he was not going to be good for Clementine no matter how hard he tried. The best he could do before his time on the Island was to think of her as an albatross-obligation, and he hated himself for it, but tried to fulfill the obligation with a rather full bank account (when he was released from prison).

Now that he is a little older, and has reestablished himself with the confidence that he could be a good man, was able to heal for a while from the trauma of his parent's murder, he might well be someone who could be a good influence in Clementine's life.

But I still don't think he'll ever want to leave the Island... at least... as it stands.

-R.

SKlaft said...

OT - point of interest:

The actor who played Michael played a bit part in the show, "Dead Like Me." He was an over-sexed yoga instructor who breaks his neck while demonstrating a stretching exercise. His "spirit" was conversing with one of the main characters, and as he was about to "cross over" (or, whatever), rather than say "goodbye," he put his hands together, bowed slightly and said... (wait for it)

"Namaste."

I just thought it was interestingly ironic.

Unknown said...

Couple notes:
1) I agree that it was not out of character for Jack to refuse young Ben treatment. He also originally refused old Ben treatment until Kate convinced him.
2) The part about young Ben not remembering this I don't think was trying to imply that he will lose *all* memory before this point. Earlier episodes have shown he remembers stuff from his childhood like that little girl who gave him that doll. I think it just implies he won't remember this whole deal about getting shot and the events around it. Yes, a little too convenient, but we don't know yet what they are going to do to him. My guess is it will have to do with the smoke monster somehow. I also thought it was a little disturbing that they referred to it as his "losing his innocence"... Made me start thinking of Richard as a pedophile though of course I'm sure that is not what they were going for.
3) I got into a debate with a student of mine last week over whether Ben was actually dead or not and was able to triumphantly finish that debate yesterday in class. :) Teacher 1, Student 0.

SRM said...

Yeah now that you reminded me of the conditions of Jack holding a cut-open Ben hostage so Kate could escape, I definitely see your point about him not being out of character.

I also got the impression Richard meant that Ben just wouldn't remember the shooting event/rescue.

Robby wrote: I like this more overt, and developed sense of heroism she has. She seems to always have had it, but it caused her a lot of heart-ache in the past, so she repressed it. With the past having been resolved with time and no longer a problem, she seems much more determined to do the right thing, come what may.
I couldn't agree more, well put.

Interesting tidbit about "Dead Like Me", I love it when shows give nods to each other like that, especially w/ an actor they share. Funny sidenote, my sister lives in NYC and she sent me a text message last Friday that "Michael from Lost" and his entourage had just walked into the restaurant she and her hubby were at. NYC is fun. :) I know his new project The Unusuals is based in NYC so not a surprised.

David - well done ;-)