Whoa! That was my reaction to this episode, very mind blowing. I'm not going to do a "recap" really since they can be rather lengthy (not to mention boring at times), so I'm just going to point out the events I thought were most interesting and my reactions, so I'd love to hear yours!Kate being Ms. Flirtypants w/ Jack again doesn't surprise me, but was does is Jack's inability to diagnose his own health problem, which according to the next eppy's trailer, is appendicitis. There's some definite weirdness with them finding the freighter's doctor w/ his throat cut but back on the boat they claim "the doctor is fine", huh? We finally see what they're capable of though, bombing Claire's, shooting random people, but I never ever thought they'd actually kill Alex. I had the same reaction as Ben, jaw dropped, wide eyed, complete shock. That poor girl! Turns out we were all wrong thinking Ben planned the murder of Carl and Danielle, it really was the crazy freighter people, and they are just as dangerous as Ben claimed they were. Oh, and I give some major hero props to Sawyer, who rescued Claire and stood up for Hurley and his curly head, bravo!
Getting to the flash forwards, we don't see how Ben ends up in the middle of the Sahara desert, but it sure looked to me a lot like when Des has his time traveling spells. He seemed to just appear out of no where w/ an arm injury and waring a Darma jacket, but he's definitely resourceful and seems to be able to get around no matter where in the world he is. We finally get the picture of how Sayid comes to work w/ Ben, wonder why the Widmore crew decided to murder his wife though. The thought just occurred to me that maybe Ben set all that up, just to get Sayid to be his assassin, what do you think? The episode ends with Ben confronting Widmore and declaring he's going to murder his daughter the way Widmore murdered his...bad news for Des and Penny. :(
So what did we learn in this eppy?
- Ben knows how to control and call the smoke monster
- The freighter people never intended to rescue the 815 survivors and are cold hearted murderers
What else gang?
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Well, if there were any sympathetic players in the others' camp at all, Alex was it. Whether her rather shocking execution will transfer any of that sympathy to her old man remains to be seen. In the short term, I think it has, but Benry has demonstrated that he is capable of burning thru sympathy capital in a hurry. I hated to see Alex go. I think that she had a selfless side to her that was rare among her people.
As one who enjoys sweet revenge, I'm more than a little disappointed with the relatively quick and painless retribution unleashed on the murdering mercinaries. If somebody popped my daughter like that, I would want that SOB to suffer the slowest and most inhumane kind of justice that I could think of. I would want him carved and starved, hacked and smacked, battered and beaten to within an inch of his life and then nursed back to good health so I could repeat the process over and over again until I was finally ready to feed him alive to my favourite ravenous dog. But hey, that's just me.
Did Benry have a hand in Sayed's wife's murder? I don't know, but judging from the delicious smirk on his face after he recruited Sayed to the dark side suggests that this was no happy co-incidence.
I like the increased speed of revelation in this shortened season's eppies. This is much more entertaining than the plodding approach taken last season.
Yeah I also hate losing Alex, she definitely showed a more human side of the Others and was probably the only person who brought out a soft side of Ben, so much for that. He definitely had a "delicious smirk" as you say walking away from Sayid at the end, very reminiscent of Sloan a la Alias and his manipulations.
OK, just a minor complaint...what is with LOST's seeming need to kill off all the eye candy? OK, just playing! :)
I was shocked they killed Alex. Absolutely shocked. Her lame boyfriend? Not so much. Rouseau? Surprised, but not shocked. I think my mouth was as open as Ben's when they shot her. I absolutely didn't expect that!
Of course, I also didn't expect that Ben could control the smoke monster either! I watch LOST with several of my friends, and they made me rewind that part and watch it again to drink in the greatness! haha! :)
One of my friends had an idea that this whole thing is a game being played between Whidmore and Ben, but that would be a very anticlimactic ending for me. I prefer to think that there is definitely a game being played, but it isn't over a dollar bet. Whidmore wants that island, and Ben is trying to keep it from him. I believe the animosity is very real, but that there are rules...which Whidmore just broke.
I also agree that Ben may have had a hand in Nadia's death in order to recruit Sayid to work for him. You knew when that smile crept across Ben's face it was a manipulation...he's incredible at making other people think they are coming up with their own ideas!
Page48, the guy who actually pulled the trigger on Alex was in the previews for next week! Apparently, he must have somehow escaped the smoke monster!!
It broke my heart to see that poor little girl die hearing the words from Ben that she ment nothing to him. The only thing is... sometimes people on this island do not seem to stay dead. Do not count her gone perminantly, even though Ben confronted Widmore. We just never really know what will happen next. that is the greatness of this show.
Last season, who would have though that Ben would seem to be telling the truth when he said, "We're the good guys"? Considering all the evidence, I almost believe him. This season's pace has picked up, and I think LOST has moved up two notches in my "Best TV" list. If it keeps going this way and ends well, it may (should I wisper it?) even surpass... naaw.. I shouldn't say that.
(It's just that ALIAS fell appart in the middle of the third season and stedily declined from there... if only it had stayed on track! :(( No, no. ALIAS set the standard, and LOST is good, but it doesn't reset the standard. This is me still trying to get over the disappointment of ALIAS season 5)
ANYWAY...
I do not think the Smoke-monster has ever looked so aggresive and ominous. I'm not sure if they just stepped up the graphics and made it better, or if it was just one angry smoke-monster. It really looked great.
RE: Sawyer/James, or Jamesyer... does that work?... I agree, he really is becoming quite the heroic figure. Maybe I mis calculated when I said (back when he was locked in the polar bear cage) that he would become the anti-hero, reluctantly saving everyone. It looks like Hurley's ploy to change him honestly helped, as well as having the catharsis of having killed John's dad, the original Sawyer. Hurley helping him to reintegrate into the camp really seems to have given Jamesyer an attachment to his fellow survivors.
John, on the other hand, is becoming more and more like Ben. (And he is reminding me more and more of his role on ALIAS.) Cold calculation is the name of the Island game, and John is learning it well. I like him less, and yet I don't want them to change him or give him less screen time (that would be nutty). Locke is just an intangeble right now, but I do know that he is not one of the Oceanic 6. Hmmm. He stays on with Jacob?
When Clair's house blew up, after I got over the shock, I said, "Oh yes... that explains why Kates ends up with Aaron," but apparently that is not how it happens - not yet.
The deal with Widmore, that there are certain rules they keep, but somehow they are fungable. (Hard to have rules if no one is keeping them.) I have no idea what this is, but we know that Widmore once laid claim to the Island before Ben's murderous coup of the Darma Initiative. I still want to know what the deal was with the giant stone foot at the shore that seemed to once hold a colossus of some kind, but only with four (or was it three?) toes. This game of Island possession has gone on for a long, long time, whateverthe case, and whoever it was that became involved. There is an even bigger story of which we are only scratching the surface.
If you have loved the last several episodes like I have, I know you will keep watching to find out what in the world is happening.
Say, its on tonight (Thursday) again, isn't it? Woo hoo!
Since there should be a new episode tonight, and there is plenty of room left in this thread, I want to revisit something I wrote in the Ji Yeon thread:
"Remember now, the Captain did not specifically say that Ben was responsible for covering up the crash and planting a false wreckage with dead bodies. He only said that is why they want to talk to him. Additionally, the choper pilot seemed to indicate that the Captain is not a good guy, and the note (presumably from Ben's spy, who presumably opened their door so they could make that phone call to Penny) warned them not to trust the Captain.
"...as it pertains to the note, I think the warning is legitimate.
"Think about it. Ben seems to have a lot of outside resources helping him supply their life on the Island, but would he really be able to stage a plane wreckage complete with 320+ dead bodies? Maybe. What about Mr. Widmore? He seems to have a great deal of resources of his own. Could it be that he has an inkling where to find the Island and what it is capable of being, and he will stop at nothing to find it as well as prevent anyone else from finding it first?
"...
"It is distinctly possible that Ben has been performing a more noble job by preventing the outside world from further discovery of the Island than we are being led to believe. He never really tries to justify himself to anyone (which is never necessary when you stand on the right side) because he knows that most people would not understand without gaining knowldge [of which,] it is his job to prevent anyone from having. He is forced to do seemingly evil things in order to keep worse things from happening if the public found out about the Island."
Well, it looks like I had that much right on target, but then, I do not know how many people already thought that too. Sometimes my posts arrive a little late, like these two tonight (this morning), and I never know if anyone ever goes back to see the thread when the new episode comes up.
Happy viewing, nonetheless.
-R.
I read them all Robetron! I always check the box to alert me to all followup comments, and I'm sure that being it is srg-alias' blog, she does too. Don't worry, we're reading you! I agree with what you said! :)
Ben may turn out to be good yet, but it's hard to believe with how manipulative he is! Good and manipulative don't usually go together!
I agree Paul that it sounds like Ben and Widmore have some sort of twisted game they're playing, why else would Ben say "he changed the rules" ?
Robby brought up some great points, and I'm w/ ya that it was painful to watch Alex hear her dad saying she meant nothing to him right before she was shot in the head. I don't see how they'd ever bring her back, but like you said, you never know w/ this island. Speaking of which, we haven't seen creepy eye-patch guy (who never dies) since he drowned Charlie have we?
I agree John is becoming more like Ben and less likable. I'm curious how their venture to see Jacob will turn out. I love Paul's quote that "good" and "manipulative" don't usually go together, I agree! Ben comes off as so evil but then again so do his opponents, so it seems like one side must be "good", but impossible to figure out which one.
I'm excited for the episode tonight, though I won't be watching it until tomorrow (Fri). Stay tuned for more discussion! :)
Paul, I didn't catch the preview for tonite's eppy. Glad to hear our little girl killer is back, though, cuz he so needs a slow, painful one.
WOW just watch the latest eppy, it's intense!! It will take some time to go through this one, stay tuned!
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